Re: The Last Film You Hated Thread.

**izorpo** · by **izorpo** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:31 pm

well Sam Raimi said on I think it was the Incredibly Strange Film Show (this going back a long time) that there were things he was disappointed with in the original (mainly the tree rape scene - he thought he may have gone to far with that so he redid the film) - so it is a remake but also a refinement as you say

remaking The Crow - jeezzzzz - its not my favourite film - but fucking hell the star was killed in the production of it - can't anything become sacrosant - or is it that it sold really well and Hollywood isn't willing to take risks so just remake something that sold once before.

thing is there are plenty of creative people making films - they often end up low budget indie productions - which is where people that like films go to see - whereas Hollywood is just for the lowest common denominator

**Frag Kebab** · by **Frag Kebab** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:33 pm

Definately. I just checked, and it's Stephen Norrington, who made Blade and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

**kermit1981** · by **kermit1981** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:35 pm

Nice to see he has a history of making great films that had something more than superpowers and effects to them at least

... Oh wait

you said blade and league... Oh shit its gonna suck!

**Frag Kebab** · by **Frag Kebab** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:42 pm

He's well overdue for a kicking, I reckon.

**izorpo** · by **izorpo** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:42 pm

in explicable - ridiculous another film I won't be seeing - still haven't seen the re-make of Planet of the Apes -

did see one remake that really got under my skin - 2000 Maniacs - which was another film that didn't need to be remade the remake - was racist and homophobic - I'm sure that directors next film will be Birth of A Nation

you know I might understand someone wanting to remake Metropolis or any of the old silent films - but not really

if people can't watch a film that was made years ago - fuck 'em

The Crow was made for a very specific audience - it was made for the goth - aggro - industrial audience - hence the music on the soundtrack- not to mention the graphic novel - it's not like Tina Turner stopped me from watching Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome -

Hollywood is also remaking Hellraiser

**Frag Kebab** · by **Frag Kebab** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:50 pm

Technically 'The Thing' is a remake, and I love that film. Although it's closer to the book than the original film, so it's a grey area for being a remake.

I liked both the original 50's version and the 70's remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Saw enough of the recent version to detest it.

**Mr Hugh Jarrdon** · by **Mr Hugh Jarrdon** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:55 pm

if they think they can make a fast buck out of it they will remake anything...stage is following screen as well. Theatre used to be about originality and art...now its full of shite that they throw together from a 70's-to 80's tv show...its dying my friends...original thought is dead

**izorpo** · by **izorpo** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:57 pm

most definitely - creativity is no longer valuable - no wonder we aren't evolving as a species

**ICHI** · by **ICHI** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:20 pm

That's not true, Jean Pierre Junet is a genius and I love watching a Del Torro movie. Both of those two have hollywood cred and they make good films. David Lynch still gets funding for movies too which I am forever greatfull for.

Frag: The Thing is awesome. When I was about 5, 6 to 7 Years old my parents used to tape me the horror film or b movie that was on the night before so I would have something to watch when I got up really early on Sunday mornings and I loved all the old Hammer films or Universal monster movies along with films like Village of the Dmaned and Tarantula I already had a good start on being a film geek. But they didn't realise once and thought they were recording me "The Thing From Outer Space" but it was actually a late night showing (on sky) of John Carpenters The Thing. I have never been so scared in my whole life and I strive to find a film that can scare me in such a way again but I've never found one. Either way it's a big fave of mine, even if it did desensitise me to the genre too :P

**izorpo** · by **izorpo** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:38 pm

David Lynch is an exception - keeping in mind he also exhibits his paintings - he's an artist most Hollywood directors just direct crap - not based on a plot but on the name of the actor, more like the more popular celebrity....and Hollywood's market is the lowest common denominator - maybe instead of spending so much on marketing - they could use the money to buy original screenplays and make original films - just think if all Hollywood directors were as creative as Lynch imagine the films there would be - instead of just toss

**ICHI** · by **ICHI** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:49 pm

The Hollywood market is saturated with shit but there is so much interesting stuff coming out from the rest of the world, with better acting and a willingness to try with story as they don't have the money for flashy explosions and big names to hide a rehashed or terrible plot.
China, Japan, France, Spain, Sweden, the UK Mexico, Germany and Brazil all have pumped out at least one film each with more care and attention, character and love than anything Hollywood has made in decades, I don't need hollywood to know that cinema isn't dead. I would like a load of the tripe from over there to just crap itself into a f*ck off! But as it's not I feel I can actually actively avoid it as I don't watch TV and only watch film, I choose what to watch and never see any of these "film stars" unless it's on my terms lol!

Moon was brilliant!!!!!!!! Eartly reports from cannes got me a bit excited and a bit non plused at the same time but it's well worth it.

Blood The Last Vampire was funny but bad

loved the manga wished for more, but how good could it have been no Tonobu Asano 2111

**ROBAFET** · by **ROBAFET** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:08 pm

dunno if you've seen blood+ itchi - whole anime series of blood action

**ICHI** · by **ICHI** on Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:23 pm

No not yet but will do now 2111